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jst · Sep 18, 2005, 07:44 PM // 19:44

what kind of bow would you guys reccomend for a shock sniper? I'd like to have a long and short bowset if possible. I want to use a shadow bow just because I love the way it looks, but I'm sure that doesn't fire fast enough for a shock build. maybe I should just get a good shortbow with dmg mods and shock string it? all suggestions welcome!

EDIT: looking at bows I was thinking boulderbeard's short bow might be the perfect shock sniper bow

Shwitz · Sep 18, 2005, 08:14 PM // 20:14

Your bow should fit your needs and skills. If you will be using Favorable Winds or Read the Wind, I would highly recommend a flatbow-type. They have the best range (equal to longbows) and refire rate (equal to shortbows). The only drawbacks are they don't look as nice as most, and the flight time on the arrows is incredibly long... which is why using Favorable Winds or RtW makes a flatbow an excellent choice. If you don't care about the range, then a shortbow/half moon is great for the refire rate. For more info on bow choice and usage, go to these threads:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...2&page=1&pp=25
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=34376

jst · Sep 18, 2005, 09:25 PM // 21:25

well the reason I suggested boulderbeards is because to shock snipe you have to have a lightning damage weapon, correct? I would really love to use a shadow bow but the charts say that it sacrafices everything for 10% armor penetration and I don't know if I believe that completely. I just love the way they look, best looking bow in the game if you ask me.... or at least better than the stupid non-matching anything storm bows

Shwitz · Sep 19, 2005, 12:46 AM // 00:46

Shadow bows do sacrifice a lot for the damage they do. However, there are ways to compensate for the slow refire if that is your bow of choice. There are many different ways to speed up your attacks (Tiger's Fury, Lightning Reflexes from Ranger skills, Flurry and Frenzy from Warrior skills). Most rangers that I know swear by Tiger's Fury, so a few points into Beast Mastery would most likely make a Shadow Bow usable. I've never tried using the "slow" (Shadow, Ivory, Horn) bows in concert with Tiger's Fury, but it probably makes the slow refire bearable. If you try it out, let me know how it works

Arrow-bow · Sep 19, 2005, 11:26 AM // 11:26

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Originally Posted by Shwitz

Shadow bows do sacrifice a lot for the damage they do. However, there are ways to compensate for the slow refire if that is your bow of choice. There are many different ways to speed up your attacks (Tiger's Fury, Lightning Reflexes from Ranger skills, Flurry and Frenzy from Warrior skills). Most rangers that I know swear by Tiger's Fury, so a few points into Beast Mastery would most likely make a Shadow Bow usable. I've never tried using the "slow" (Shadow, Ivory, Horn) bows in concert with Tiger's Fury, but it probably makes the slow refire bearable. If you try it out, let me know how it works

Lol i dont understand thath tigers furry why most of rangers use it? its disabled skills and im thinking its for ashh i mean thtah tigers furry can u just tell why most of rangers use it?(read thw wind rules tigers furry sucks!)

Shwitz · Sep 19, 2005, 12:45 PM // 12:45

Most rangers use Tiger's Fury because they can keep it going most of the time. Yes, it does disable your non-attack skills for 5 seconds, but if you find yourself in a situation in which you, as a ranger (who is supposed to keep your distance), need one of your defensive skills in the first 5 seconds of a battle, you're in deep trouble anyway. Tiger's Fury allows you to pump arrows out at a great speed for 7-8 seconds with only 2-3 seconds of downtime when your Beast Mastery is in the 4-8 range. Sure, Lightning Reflexes doesn't disable your skills, but it has a 60 second recharge, which means it can't be used that often. I find that I don't need all of my skills at the ready all of the time in my build, so I can afford to disable my non-attacks for 5 second intervals.

Arrow-bow, have you ever tried using Tiger's Fury for an extended period? If you have, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. If not, give it a try. Bring your Beast Mastery up to 4 so you can have a 7 second duration on Tiger's Fury and test it out. If you really don't like it, stick to whatever stance you're using, no harm done.

brobster · Sep 19, 2005, 05:52 PM // 17:52

i got a r/n and i cant decide which build to use from it can someone help me out?

Arrow-bow · Sep 20, 2005, 11:23 AM // 11:23

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Originally Posted by Shwitz

Most rangers use Tiger's Fury because they can keep it going most of the time. Yes, it does disable your non-attack skills for 5 seconds, but if you find yourself in a situation in which you, as a ranger (who is supposed to keep your distance), need one of your defensive skills in the first 5 seconds of a battle, you're in deep trouble anyway. Tiger's Fury allows you to pump arrows out at a great speed for 7-8 seconds with only 2-3 seconds of downtime when your Beast Mastery is in the 4-8 range. Sure, Lightning Reflexes doesn't disable your skills, but it has a 60 second recharge, which means it can't be used that often. I find that I don't need all of my skills at the ready all of the time in my build, so I can afford to disable my non-attacks for 5 second intervals.

Arrow-bow, have you ever tried using Tiger's Fury for an extended period? If you have, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. If not, give it a try. Bring your Beast Mastery up to 4 so you can have a 7 second duration on Tiger's Fury and test it out. If you really don't like it, stick to whatever stance you're using, no harm done.

aargghh beastmastery 4 ok i try.

Tak-Hunter · Sep 24, 2005, 07:43 PM // 19:43

Hey

I was wondering what is the best armor for a ranger.

I'm using the Forge DrakeScale right now, but I dont really know if those +15 armor against fire, cold, lighting really helps, the druid armor is better?

Or there is even better armors in others places of the game?

thanks

Shwitz · Sep 24, 2005, 08:30 PM // 20:30

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Originally Posted by Tak-Hunter

Hey

I was wondering what is the best armor for a ranger.

I'm using the Forge DrakeScale right now, but I dont really know if those +15 armor against fire, cold, lighting really helps, the druid armor is better?

Or there is even better armors in others places of the game?

thanks

Depends on where you are, what you're doing, and what your opponents are using. If you plan to use either the Greater Conflagration {E} or Winter nature rituals at all, I'd use the appropriate armor for the conditions (Drakescale for Conflag, Fur-lined for Winter). The extra 15 armor vs that type of damage is helpful. However, full Druid's armor does offer energy, and many types of damage just aren't elemental (like shadow, chaos, light, holy, etc). I personally use Druid's, its never a bad thing to have higher max energy.

Arrow-bow · Sep 25, 2005, 04:28 PM // 16:28

Hey you guys know some good ranger farming for ranger, unlike using only ranger skills because i just which my secondary for monk to mesmer and i need much of money for skills and very much of experience for skill points now i have only 5 mesmer skills, so please tell some good framing build for me at ranger for using mostely only ranger skills plz.

Arrow-bow · Sep 25, 2005, 04:48 PM // 16:48

Can some1 tell some good Ranger/mesmer build for PvP unlike caster killer or something about it.

Dont Look At My · Sep 27, 2005, 06:52 PM // 18:52

...
there isnt really one for farming ...
you need a monk as second profession for farming and with ranger its not very ideal

Lag Hell · Sep 29, 2005, 04:01 PM // 16:01

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Originally Posted by Arrow-bow

Can some1 tell some good Ranger/mesmer build for PvP unlike caster killer or something about it.

Frag ranger build, sum1 posted it on pg 2 of this thread

Arrow-bow · Sep 30, 2005, 11:22 AM // 11:22

What is the best second profession ranger? i mean thtah whath u thinks thtah what is the best secondary ranger? and tell why? hmm im thinking about it the elementalist would be best because of earth magig and water magig or mesmer because of some hexes unlike spirit of failure.

Arrow-bow · Oct 13, 2005, 12:46 PM // 12:46

Hmm eny1 canna tell good ranger/monk framing build which way it takes good exp and good money?

Watmonster · Oct 15, 2005, 12:31 AM // 00:31

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Originally Posted by Arrow-bow

What is the best second profession ranger? i mean thtah whath u thinks thtah what is the best secondary ranger? and tell why? hmm im thinking about it the elementalist would be best because of earth magig and water magig or mesmer because of some hexes unlike spirit of failure.

pleaze learn to type

neoflame · Oct 15, 2005, 01:41 AM // 01:41

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Originally Posted by Watmonster

pleaze learn to type

See where it says "Location: Finland", dumbass?

By the way, you spelled "please" wrong.

(reature111 · Oct 16, 2005, 01:05 PM // 13:05

No one has really touched upon a Ranger Tank Build. It is Quite useful for Team Support in PvE with players and with henches. Can solo, but not too effectively (hey its still a ranger). Awesome tanking capabilities.

Secondary Profession Does not Matter, I have Mes and Nec as secondary for Trapper and Fragility builds, but you can use anything.

12 Expertise
16 Wilderness Survival (+1 Helm,+3 Superior Rune)
4 Marksmanship, or Beast Mastery, or Whatever

Oath Shot [E]
Ignite Arrows (Any Skill can be Substituted Here)
Whirling Defense
Throw Dirt
Barbed Trap
Flame Trap
Dust Trap
Troll ungent

This is a very fun build, and you will be surprised how effective it is. Those attributes are with only one Attribute quest completed as well.. First of all, its aimed more towards warrior-heavy enemy groups, rather then caster-heavy groups.

Starting off,throw on whirling Defense and pull/aggro the enemies into as tight of a cluster as possible. Then when they are hacking away, hit Throw Dirt on the enemy in the middle of the group (who has the most amount of enemies adjacent to him). This will Blind them for 13 seconds and combined with the remaining time on whirling defense (lasts a while), will result in you not being touched at all. Next, quickly hit Flame Trap and Barbed Trap to do some damage. By the time ur done Laying those two traps, throw dirt and whirling Defense will be soon wearing out, but they will still giv you enuf time to lay down Dust Trap, Blinding them again for...10 Seconds each Second for the next 5 Seconds (Which is Ultimately, 15 seconds Total from time they are struck). Then Guess what, you hit Oath Shot, and Start all over again. Troll Ungent isnt necessary very often, but +10 regen is pretty nice to have around. I recommend Troll Ungent if going solo, and Healing Spring if goin in a group, to further support the warrior tank(s). Energy isnt really a problem with full Druids gear and 12 Expertise, but if need to recharge, just hit Ignite Arrows and shoot away while you recharge with Rangers' +3 energy regen (even with 0-4 Marksmanship the +19 Fire Dmg from Ignite is respectable), or even better have a nec Secondary. And also this build is great for when Everything hits the fan and the battle is chaotic, just run around throwing dirt, laying dust traps, etc on everything attacking ur team, to help keep them alive while you get control of the situation.

All in all an Extemely useful team support build and very underappreciated (whats new for Rangers?).

beginners_luck · Oct 18, 2005, 12:16 PM // 12:16

That's actually a pretty useful build if your armor's high enough. I've tried something like that, and unless you sneak in after the warriors already started fighting, you could be taking some unexpected spike damage.